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Parliament adopted a measure that would criminalize “abhorrent violent material” shared on social media platforms, threatening huge fines for tech companies and jail for their employees.
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HN Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19569150
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#HackerNews #australia #companies #for #law #media #passes #posts #punish #social #violent
A rally in Adelaide, Australia, after last month’s massacre at two mosques in New Zealand.CreditCreditChristina Simons for The New York Times
Australia passed sweeping legislation Thursday that threatens huge fines for social media companies and jail for their executives if they fail to rapidly remove “abhorrent violent material” from their platforms.
The law — strongly opposed by the tech industry — puts Australia at the forefront of a global movement to hold companies like Facebook and YouTube accountable for the content they host.
It comes less than a month after a gunman, believed to be an Australian white nationalist, distributed a hate-filled manifesto online before using Facebook to live-stream the massacre of 50 people at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand.
“These platforms should not be weaponized for these purposes,” said Christan Porter, Australia’s attorney general, during a debate on the bill Thursday in the House of Representatives.
“Internet platforms must take the spread of abhorrent violent material online seriously,” he added.
Written quickly and without much input from technology companies or experts, the measure goes as far as any other democracy’s attempt to punish multinational tech platforms for the behavior of their users.
“This is most likely a world first,” Mr. Porter said, adding that “there was a near unanimous view among Australians that social media platforms had to take more responsibility for their content.”
The legislation criminalizes “abhorrent violent material,” which it defines as videos that show terrorist attacks, murders, rape or kidnapping. Social media companies that fail to remove such content “expeditiously” could face fines of up to 10 percent of their annual profit, and employees could be sentenced to up to three years in prison. Companies must also inform the police when illegal material is found.
The bill, even before it was introduced in the House of Representatives on Thursday, intensified an already heated global debate over free speech, violence and technology.
Australian media companies warned this week that the law could lead to the censorship of legitimate speech.
A consortium of the global tech superpowers, including Google, Facebook and Amazon, also argued that it would damage Australia’s relations with other countries because it would require “proactive” surveillance of all users worldwide, while criminalizing content reposted by users without the companies knowing about it.
“This law, which was conceived and passed in five days without any meaningful consultation, does nothing to address hate speech, which was the fundamental motivation for the tragic Christchurch terrorist attacks,” said Sunita Bose, the managing director of the Digital Industry Group Inc., an advocacy group representing Facebook, Google and other companies.
“With the vast volumes of content uploaded to the internet every second,” Ms. Bose said, “this is a highly complex problem that requires discussion with the technology industry, legal experts, the media and civil society to get the solution right — that didn’t happen this week.”
In the Senate Wednesday night, Richard Di Natale, a senator in the Australian Greens party, said the process was being rushed. He blamed both Australia’s conservative government and the opposition Labor Party, which he characterized as compliant.
“We’ve got some of the most significant changes to social media online regulation that we have ever seen,” he said. And yet, with little or no time for public input, he added, “it’s going to be rammed through.”
Experts warned that the law — which is meant to reach beyond traditional social media to sites that have been hotbeds of white supremacy, like 4Chan — could lead to legal challenges. It’s not clear whether Australia would be able to take action against companies that do not have offices in the country, nor is it clear if it would have a right to impose profit-based penalties on international behemoths like Facebook.
The vague standard of removing content “expeditiously” — which would be decided by a jury, under the law — could also lead to extended battles, full of technical detail, over what should be reasonably expected from tech companies dealing with millions if not billions of users.
A similar law in Germany requires companies remove “obviously illegal” content within 24 hours, a more precise time frame that has nonetheless been challenging to meet.
[Read more about countries considering steps to regulate posts on social media.]
One problem, according to experts, is that banned posts, photos and videos continue to linger online because the platforms, using both human moderators and technology, have been unable to identify and remove every iteration of illegal content.
Susan Benesch, founder of the Dangerous Speech Project at Harvard’s Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society, said that Australia’s attempt to keep “abhorrent violent material” off the internet could face similar problems, leading to more dramatic responses from the platforms.
“It would likely encourage increased censorship and takedowns by companies,” she said. “The platforms would likely move their offices out of countries that pass such laws, to protect them from prosecution.”
Some lawmakers suggested that the legislation had been pushed through by Australia’s conservative government to avoid a far more difficult conversation about root causes of the Christchurch massacre: Islamophobia and other forms of bigotry.
“The fundamental evil we are seeking to eradicate is not the sharing of recordings, it is the violence itself,” said Mark Dreyfus, a Labor Party lawmaker from the state of Victoria, adding: “An attack on any religion is an attack on all religion.”
If Labor wins national elections expected in May, he said, the new government will revisit the law’s provisions with an eye toward the broader issue of hate speech, which is not covered by the legislation.
“The lack of consultation on this bill has meant that the government has not even considered the practical difficulties,” he said.
Mr. Porter, the attorney general, insisted that the details could be worked out. At a news conference after the law’s passage, he boasted that “this is mostly likely a world first.”
“There was an expectation that the government would move urgently,” he said, “which is precisely what we have done.”
Livia Albeck-Ripka contributed reporting from Melbourne, Australia.
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1/31/06 From The Lord, Our God and Savior
The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy
For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear
Thus says The Lord God of #Israel, The God of #Abraham, The God of #Isaac, The God of #Jacob, The God of all: I AM THE I AM, The Only God. I am The All in All, Maker of all that is #heaven and #earth. I AM. And nothing in all #creation exists apart from Me, for even all things have come into being by My #voice. For I am #YAHUWAH, He who causes to be; even I am He, #YAHUSHUA, by whom all things consist.
Yet you, O unholy church of #men, have polluted My #name! You have departed from The Way, and you have desecrated The #Holy #Covenant! Behold, you have altogether despised My Word and My #Law! For you do always pick the scab and refuse the #ointment, a people covered with #sores! Thus you shall receive of the #curse in full! Says The Lord God. Yes, according to your works, so shall you receive recompense in full, until you are utterly consumed!
Therefore hear the Word of The Lord, for thus says The Lord, yes I, The Only Lord of Hosts: The Word of My mouth speaks, and so it comes to pass. I think, and so it is and shall be. And behold, I curse, and it is cursed. For I #cast down the wicked and cause the lofty to fall. I throw down the strongholds of the rebellious and break apart every false #foundation. For I AM HE who has punished great #kings and brought #plagues upon their #people. I AM HE who has #cast down the #mighty and destroyed whole #nations. Behold, I abase the #pride of the #pagan and #punish the wickedness of the #heathen with #death! I break the #idols in pieces and cause the graven #image to fall on its #face! For I am a great king, says The Lord, and My name is to be feared among the nations!
Yet I am not without #mercy, for My #promises stand and My Holy Covenant endures forever. Therefore, when one comes to Me in the name of The #Son, in sincerity and in #truth, they are #forgiven, even forever and ever. Amen. For I said, “Let there be a #Lamb without #spot or #blemish, sacrificed for the #atonement of #sin,” and so it was, “And let The Lamb be The Son of God, The Holy One of Israel, in whom all the nations of the earth shall be #blessed,” and so it is, forever and ever! Sing #halleluYah! Let My people cry out, “God is with us!”
Yet you have not sung, nor have I heard you #cry out in the name of The Holy One of Israel, nor have you given thanks in His holy name! YOU REFUSE TO #DRINK FROM MY #CUP! Instead you #pollute it, you #defile it, as you #pour it upon the #ground; coming before Me in the name of those who went before you, of whom you have not known, offering up #supplications in the name of the dead; having altogether become as the pagan and the heathen, as those who worshiped the #queen of heaven, teaching as #doctrine abomination, laying one #transgression upon another throughout your #generations! Shall I not then require it at your #hand?!
And yet your pomp reaches higher than the #mountains, and your #false #piety extends to the ends of the earth! WOE TO YOU! Woe to your sons and daughters! Woe to every #disciple who follows you and drinks from the cups of your fornications, taking part in your abominations! WOE TO ALL PEOPLE, WHO HIDE IN THE #BOSOM OF THE #PRINCE OF #DARKNESS!
Thus says The Lord God, who is and was and is to come, The Almighty: As I have spoken, so shall I #speak; as I am, so shall I be. Therefore, hear the Word of My mouth and give heed to My speech, and turn from this evil way you uphold, lest I come upon you suddenly and #tear you in pieces! Says The Lord.
For among you are wicked men, who like #fowlers lie in wait and set #traps, that they might catch men. Behold, with practiced speech and a lying #tongue they ensnare them, that they might go into captivity together! As a #cage full of detestable #birds, so are all your #houses of #worship, O unholy church of men!
Behold, your leaders have grown #fat with deceit, truth has perished among them; it has altogether been #cut off from their mouth! For your seers swear falsely, and your #leaders do not cease from speaking blasphemies with a practiced and lying tongue, and your appointed #kings and #bishops #rule by their own #authority! And oh how your people #love to have it so... Yet what will you do in the end?
Thus says The Lord God, whose #throne is set #high above the heavens, The Creator of Heaven and Earth: As I have spoken, so shall I speak; as I am, so shall I be. Therefore hear the Word of My mouth, and give heed to My speech, and turn from this wicked way you have chosen, lest I come upon you suddenly and tear you in pieces! Says The Lord.
For The Lord God hates abomination, yet vines of wickedness have sprung up, reaching to the ends of the earth. For the fruit of the people is corrupt, their bounty wickedness, producing only rebellion against The Lord! Yet you, O church of harlots, are worse still! For with what can I compare you, and who are you like? You are a whole congregation of sly and deceitful snakes, a vicious den of vipers from which a great hissing has come forth against The Lord and His anointed, a den of thieves who cease not from robbing Me, captive #children whose fathers persecuted and murdered those sent to them!
_Throughout your generations,
You have been murderers!
From the beginning, you were scoundrels!...
Even to this day you persecute My messengers,
And stone those sent to you in word and by deed,
That you might continue to poison your own people!
Behold, your heresies have no end!...
SHALL I NOT PUNISH YOU
FOR THESE THINGS?!...
SHALL I NOT AVENGE MYSELF
UPON A CHURCH SUCH AS THIS?!_
Yet you say, “We are sovereign. We are set apart from the nations and sit as queen. We set the times and declare the seasons. See, we have given birth to many kings, and have grown #rich beyond measure. Thus our princes shall reign supreme.”
Therefore, thus declares The Sovereign Lord who reigns from Heaven: Because you have not shut your mouth from speaking blasphemies, and have not drawn back your hand from all your abominations, to both practice them and to #teach them, and because you have endeavored to change The #Commandments of The Lord, even to set yourselves up as the standard, declaring your own #glory before men, AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE POLLUTED THE HOLY COVENANT BY YOUR EVERY WORD AND DEED, so also shall I open My mouth against you, so also shall I stretch out My hand against you, until you are utterly consumed! Declares The Lord. Therefore take up a lamentation on the desolate heights, bring forth a bitter weeping in all the earth! FOR THE LORD HAS REJECTED AND FORSAKEN THE #GENERATION OF HIS WRATH!
O unholy church of men, I take no #pleasure in you. You are an abhorrence to Me, your #faith is dead, and the #fruit of your doings brings forth death, says The Lord. For you do not give heed to My words, nor do you obey My Commandments; My every statute you have torn asunder. You do always reject My Word; from My ways you are far removed.
Behold, you have taken it upon yourselves to change MY Word and MY Commandments, teaching as law the doctrines and traditions of men, which I hate, to the continual blaspheming of My spirit! How long shall I suffer you?! I can not endure all this iniquity! You are perverse, a church overflowing with iniquity, harlotries beyond measure! Your offerings are not accepted, all your supplications are rejected; behold, they are a foul stench in My nostrils, a rancid taste in My mouth! Therefore you must be purged, I must vomit you out!
_O unholy church of men, #mother of all fornications,
How long shall you tempt The Lord your God?!...
How long shall you bring before Me defiled offerings,
Making supplications in the name of the dead?!...
How long shall you deceive yourselves, as you continue
To place your #hope in those who have fallen asleep?!...
For I tell you the truth, even by all you say and do,
Do you cause your people to sin, even to crucify
Their Savior again and again in their hearts._
For the people come to you, to you and your appointed “fathers”, seeking forgiveness, which I said you shall not do. Your appointed fathers are guilty; they remain in their sins! Nor can praying in the name of Mary, using vain repetition, save you, which I said you shall not do. THE SONS OF MEN CAN NOT FORGIVE SINS! MARY IS NOT THE WAY!
Mary was My beloved #servant and #vessel, who also was in need of #redemption by Him who created her and through whom she was made. Mary sleeps, she is dead, and her sepulcher remains with you to this day. Is she assured of life in The #Kingdom? She is. Because though she bore The Victory#, she humbled herself before Him, knowing in herself that The Son she bore first bore her; being both her Son and her Father, her Lord and her God from Heaven; also being her brother, both being children of David and of God in the earthly places.
I tell you the truth, all have sinned, all have fallen short of glory. There is none righteous, no, not one. Shall you then pray to the vessel, or to The Maker who formed it? And shall you hold the #handmaiden of The Lord in high regard, and make for yourselves graven images, though I said this you shall not do? Therefore I tell you plainly, by your own hands you have transgressed The Commandment, and by your own #fingers you have sinned against The Lord your God! YEA, BY ALL YOUR DOINGS, YOU HAVE SURELY FORSAKEN AND BETRAYED THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD!
Behold, even your consciences are defiled, and upon your knees you commit #idolatry without ceasing! Did Mary suffer for your iniquities? Did Mary bear your sins on the #tree? Was #Mary crucified for you? Was Mary raised from the dead, and by her #life do you now live? Can anyone in need of #redemption #redeem another?! Only He, who is completely blameless, may redeem those who have fallen. Therefore if one commits themselves to a faith which is dead, then with the dead they must #sleep, having denied The Truth and The #Life sent to them, #crucified and raised, The Lord your Righteousness, The Only Way.
Therefore thus says The Lord God, The Holy One of Israel: Stop worshiping the dead! Worship Me by Him who alone is #holy, being altogether as The Father, the very same as God. For before the foundation of the world, I AM, with The Christ forever seated at My right hand; The Father and The Son are One. By Him do all things consist, and through Him all was made, even all these worlds.
_HYPOCRITES! WOE TO YOU!...
Woe to you who testify falsely on My behalf!
Woe to you who teach as doctrine the commandments of men!
Woe to you who pervert the Way of The Lord
Among the people, and profane My holy things!...
I DO NOT KNOW YOU, NOR DO YOU
HAVE ANY PART WITH ME AT ALL!...
For the Way of The Lord is set apart and holy, My Law is holy,
And My Commandments, holy, just and good...
Says The Lord._
Thus says The Lord, whose way is in the whirlwind and in the #storm, and the #clouds are the #dust of His feet: O unholy church of adulteries, you speak as though you know Me, yet you do not know Me. You have forsaken Me! For you are an estranged #woman, who knows not that she is accursed. For the musings of your #heart have been evil from your beginnings; from your very #foundation your wickedness has not ceased!
Therefore I will indeed draw near to you for JUDGMENT, I will indeed stretch out My hand against you for RECOMPENSE, and you shall be torn in pieces! For you have robbed Me, says The Lord, and have not ceased from perverting My way amongst the people! Behold, you continue to #pollute My name in all the earth, even to this day!
Therefore, turn! Says The Lord. Turn aside from this wicked way you uphold, from this evil #path you have chosen, and return to Me! Turn aside, and now follow The #Shepherd in spirit and in truth, and I also shall return to you. Hear His voice and #obey the Word of His mouth, heed His every commandment; turn not to the right hand, nor to the left, but walk in His ways.
Beloved children, I say this once again, so you may be saved: Come out! Come out from among them and be separate! Says The Lord. And no more touch what is unclean, and I will receive you! Cast away the commandments of men, and obey not the word of your forefathers. Turn away from the counsel of your appointed bishops and kings, and shut your ears to the words of your priests and false fathers; fully shun the ways of your founders. For their every doctrine rests upon the sands of abomination, all their ways are corrupt. And no more give reverence to your “holy see”, for this is most contemptible in My sight. Break #free from all this insolence before The Lord, and I may yet have #mercy upon you.
_Beloved children, there is but One Way...
Yes, He who is called Jesus The Christ,
He is The Only Way...
Therefore follow close behind Him,
In His very footsteps,
And you shall surely live and not die...
Says The Lord whose dominion is everlasting
And whose authority is absolute,
The Only Lord God of Hosts, The I AM._
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