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It seems leftists are really having a fit over this whole Alabama abortion thing.
I find the whole situation amusing on several levels. There is the usual surface level fake outrage and internet virtue signaling, the Alyssa Milano led "sex strike" is an especially comical example of this.
Yet there is also this whole meta level to it that I see, a kind of reversal. What are the long term implications of a conservative led ban on abortions? (Well, one would hope that it would force women to be more careful, but that doesn't seem very likely to me.) I would expect that the amount of unwanted births would increase. Resulting in more delinquency, crime, more welfare dependents and more Democrat voters. It seems to me the long term effects of this very conservative type legislation would ultimately lead to a decline of conservatism in the long run. It's a bit ironic isn't it? From the stand point of the r/K selection theory it is also interesting how pushing K would ultimately lead to a cyclical upsurge of r. (Hence why AC adopted the yin/yang symbol for his theory.)
I've seen some of the leftist arguments, and again I find it all pretty funny. They tend to add this whole racist element to it, which is somewhat hypocritical coming from people who pride themselves on being "anti-racist." They are quick to point out that all the senators who passed this legislation are white males. This is a fundamentally racist argument, and coming from people who claim to believe there are no races and all people are the same, it's logically inconsistent.
I've seen it also argued that this ban on abortions will discriminate more against black women. They say this is because white women will be are able to skirt the law by traveling to another state and that black women tend to lack the economic mobility to do so. Sure (generally speaking) this may be true, but what they fail to mention is that black women are having more abortions than white women, by a rate of more than double. So logically they are trying to argue that these "white conservatives" are racist because they are promoting a law that will result in more black babies being born. 🤔 Think about it, if racist white men wanted less black people, they would support abortions.
So there is a whole eugenics angle to this as well. After all, the fastest and most efficient way to optimize society would be to remove the undesirables. Let's face it, this is what abortion is, women are literally having doctors remove and kill off their undesirables. Leftists like to sugar coat it with delusional rationalizations, (like claiming a fetus is just a "clump of cells" or a parasite,) but the reality is these are unwanted human beings and they are killing them off in order to escape the burden of mother hood. There is no sense kidding ourselves. Even if it is justified, abortion will always have a social stigma among good and moral people, because this is grim work and represents a big screw up. So it is only natural that the procedure would be associated with some amount of guilt and shame. (Of course in clown world everything is backwards and the satanic left would like to twist this into something happy to brag about. Sometimes it might be considered necessary to kill the undesirables, but necessary evil is still evil and attempts to normalize it and make it as "no big deal" are perverse.
Despite the official narrative, eugenics is still very much a thing and is actively being used to cultivate society to benefit the elitists at the top. (Although you may consider it more appropriate to call it dis-eugenics, I'm not going to pursue the semantics of the terminology here.) Abortions is just a small part of this operation that includes compromised vaccines, tainted water, poisoned food, dumbed down education, weaponized immigration, technological social engineering and propaganda. This level of long term NWO plans is beyond the superficial left/right political dialectic, and certainly beyond the scope of our clown world abortion controversy. ^So keep it in mind, but consider this a tangent.
For my own personal position on abortions, it might alienate some of my conservative friends to learn that I am not 100% against it. There is nothing good about it, but I do believe there are some cases where it could be justified. Certainly in cases where the woman's life is jeopardized (extremely rare) or cases where the pregnancy is a result of rape (fairly rare) I think it would be acceptable. Also if there is some kind of developmental problem with the fetus I think it should be an option. If my wife was pregnant with a downs syndrome or otherwise retarded baby, I would strongly consider abortion. I would not want to be burdened with raising a retard and such a child would more than likely be a drain on society. ((I know this sounds cold and heartless, but this is my opinion. Feel free to judge me on it.) This kinda reminds me of the ancient Spartans. It is said they used to have their elders judge the new born babies before they were accepted into society. If they found any deformity in the infant they would toss it off a cliff. This was an early form of eugenics. I'm not saying we should be trying to emulate the Spartans, but it's interesting to note that in their time they were the strongest and most formidable of the ancient Greeks.)
However the majority of abortions do not fall into these aforementioned categories. In the majority of cases the woman opts for an abortion because for whatever reason she doesn't feel she's ready. She may feel she's too young, doesn't want to settle down, not economically secure enough, still wants to have fun and live it up, would rather pursue a career, doesn't want to be tied to the father (or doesn't know which one he is,) and just basically wanted to have sex but didn't want to be a mother. To sum it up, most women have abortions because they are irresponsible. I take issue with this. Jewish propaganda promoted feminism and the emancipation of women. The problem is you can't have freedom without responsibility.
So how about this for a compromise to the abortion law? Every female citizen shall be entitled to a state sponsored abortion, after which she would be sterilized. That way she won't have to worry about getting pregnant again and she can go and have fun or whatever, and then everyone's happy. (Obviously I would make an exception for rape babies.)
The irresponsibility is bad enough, but what I find most abhorrent about modern abortion is what is done with the fetal tissues afterwards. Most people don't realize that there is a market for this stuff. Stem cells are harvested and grown, not just for research, these also get used for things like vaccines. We know that the circumcised baby foreskins get used for cosmetic products, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that fetal parts might get used that way as well. Naturally most decent people would be appalled to learn that there is a profit motivation for harvesting fetuses, so obviously they keep a tight lid on all of this ghoulish business.
So to sum it up, the abortion issue is quite grim and one would expect it be taken very seriously. However this is clown world, everything is turned upside down here. In an internet age of social media stoking outrage and moral indignation from the masses of gullible sheeple, I can't help but see the absurdity of it all. I suppose both the far-left and the far-right would agree that society would be improved by removing the undesirables. (Of course they would disagree on who those undesirables should be,) but it doesn't matter anyway because society is so pussyfied that we can only remove the weakest and most defenseless. It's not good, but at this point in clown world I'm beyond the sadness and anger... Who would have guessed that after all that would be a laugh. Maybe I've gone insane or maybe it's just the world that's insane.
Well that's kinda cliché. More likely I am just indifferent to the whole abortion controversy because to me it seems pretty minor compared to some of the bigger issues we face.
So if you have a something to say to me about this, feel free to comment. Or if you want to just condemn me for my incorrect opinions that's fine too. Cheers.
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