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Hello and a big welcome

to everyone new to diaspora*


With Google+ closing today, you might have just signed up to diaspora* looking for a new home. We're so pleased that you've decided to give diaspora* a try. It's fantastic that you've joined us! We have a big existing community of former G+ users, and you could try tags such as #gplusrefugee and #googleplus to connect with people you know from G+.

We hope that you quickly find your way here, and enjoy getting connected with people and content.

Here's a few tips for getting started:
  • There are some step-by-step tutorials on our project website covering the basics of how diaspora* works, and how to get connected with people. There's a link to these in the side-bar, should yo
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@Andrew Pam Hellofellow #podmin

@Jamie Macbeth This might help you getting around

Thanks .. I'll give it a read, might take a few days to get used to all the new stuff ... after rising from my G+ death..

I like Diaspora* a lot so far! Glad I found it...
It's so nice that here are no ads but I have still got problems to get the right # Tags. Sadly there is a difference to #Twitter and their 500mln users...
# #Twitter

Diaspora is a good alternative to google plus. I have still no idea, why google plus is crashed down and Fake Book is still here.

@Tarator Abentheuer and @Andrew Pam #waves to fellow #podmin 😀

I largely run my pod on principle. I'm able to do it, and we need more pods, not less. The people that run pluspora are awesome folks, but it's an awful lot of eggs in one basket. Once pod migration is released, I could probably on-board 1,000 folks in a fairly short order.

@Peter Gervai my research has found that comment likes was removed some time ago because it was blowing up pod databases. AFAIK those issues have been resolved with changes to the db structure, but someone needs to write new code

To All Who are #NewHere

Welcome!


Besides all the other very helpful stuff that people post here about the #Federation and the #Fediverse, we still see a lot of new people appear, post their #newhere message, and then we never see them again. To help with that, I wanted to offer this little bit of information.
Diaspora takes time to become what you want it it to be.

This is because #Diaspora will not suggest “people you may know” or “stuff you might be interested in.” There’s no data-mining or tracking or spying on you to find out what to “suggest” to you. You build your own here, and that takes a little mor... show more

This is just my thoughts, and I’m writing this in response to no one in particular, at the same time to all interested in this thread and the future of Diaspora.

I’m one of the new lurkers here and the freshness and freedom of Diaspora feels really good! I’m still trying to figure out where to go with this. Everywhere I go in search of alternative media someone is spewing content I don’t wanna see through (here😀 tags I wanna follow. This has been going on for more than two decades now. But being free from commercial channels Diaspora provides a very good version. It could be described as a kind of a slow forum for thoughtful people.

Maybe the most devine (can I even use that word here?) reason for having people come here is to liberate them from being a data-producing product exposed to commercials. But maybe we should not search for the way where we reach and catch as many as possible, but let it grow slowly. Many wanna try something else because of a variety of reasons, not just because... show more

@kalastaja@flokk.no It may be a problem that the types of content is highly dependant on the population present, quality and quantity-wise as well.

If Disapora gets popular there will be approximately the same quality information as on Fæcesbook or elsewhere. The content is created by the people: the more people, the more the content will be the same as anywhere else.

The only exception is that here nobody try to sell your data, and controlling (censoring) content is much harder. This may be a big theoretical win, but in everyday use it's almost non-existant to the average person.

@kalastaja@flokk.no...

Your view of what's here can be modified by three things...
  • who you choose to put in your Aspects (follow)
  • who adds you to their Aspects (sharing with you)
andAlso, there are two distinct streams available:
  • your personal stream
and
  • the Public stream.
The latter is a free-for-all where you will see post from anyone and anywhere with any content.

The former, your personal stream, is determined by Aspects/#hashtags/people sharing with you. Yes, some crap will seep in to that stream, but not as much as you will see on the Public one.

If someone is sharing with you and you don't care to see their posts (not replies, just their original posts), then you can Ignore them by pulling up their profile and click the Ignore icon (circle with line through it). This will prevent their original posts from appearing in your personal stream, but not replies they leave on other people's posts.

It is what it is... until improvements in true blocking are instituted here.

Regards...

Nice feedback 😀

And herein lies my future attention, @V. T. Eric Layton. But I must clarify - best done through an example; Even if I follow #politics to get some news concerning politics, I get less thought through opinions on politics. Any tag can mean a lot of different things. That's my experience since the first chat-rooms, and BBS:es even. But maybe I need to bang my head against these functions here a bit more 😀

Size matters, you say @Peter Gervai. Well, I'd say Diaspora is allready past that limit.

I guess my point there was I am satisfied and pleasently surprised with what Diaspora is this far. And it can get better for me. But for these one time tryers, it might be just a nother fish in the sea. A fish where you have to work to get contacts - which may not yet be suitable for the like-me-addict.

What are your thoughts? 😀

You are correct about the #hashtags being insufficient in themselves. The problem is that spammer, click-baiters, all-round-troll-assholes will often tag their posts and replies with false #science, #mathematics, #news, etc. tags. Unfortunately, the system will add that disguised crap into your stream. 🙁

Doubly so for repeating them! 😉
#trolling but, um, since this is a properly tagged comment, maybe it isn't in the end. 😉

Buenas!! Esta información está en español, ya que no entiendo inglés!! Gracias y abrazos!!

Hello all 😀 looking forward to learning about this site and the great people here.

il y a des francais ici?

@balnelius@diaspora.vrije-mens.org Si vous suivez la tag #giletsjaunes je suis sûr que vous trouverez des français et des canadiens.
Bienvenu! DeepL Translator

Danke schön ihr Lieben; thank you loveley one's
Sorry for i'm unperfect in other languages
So english or german (sorry)

Kind regards

Lothar

hello to all,I would like to thank you all for making me feel welcome and would like to say welcome to all the other new people 😀
english is my only language but will do my best to understand others.

Just exploring.

[removed spam comment from yesterday]

Wrote here a lot , and I do not know English , I do not have the ability to other languages

hello everyone 😀 just installed a translater on my browser ,was an idea given me by another user here 😀 helps alot thankyou 😁

Great job man @morgonas@diaspora.flidais.net

@morgonas@diaspora.flidais.net great suggestion! I never thought of add ing translation support to the browser. I use firefox and just added https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/instant-translate/
Works like a charm!

For many common languages, deepl.com provides really good translations

@Christoph S of course, and it does not have the automatic data grabbing from google translate. But IMO it is too much of a hassle to go to the deeple website and have a message translated. A Firefox addon is so much more convenient. You don't have to leave the page you want to translate.
IMO this is second best (after having an option to translate in diaspora itself)

@ Christoph S and Rob Bosch but deepl.com ist not for free.

@Hartmut Schröder (Schroeder) You can use the webversion for free at https://www.deepl.com/translator
If you want to use the API you have to buy a license... I still think it would be best to have a translate option implemented in #diaspora* but second best is a browser addon like the instant-translate addon....

Hi Diaspora be carefull i think that some malicious hacker want intercept traffic to all user, with a fake server cloning, they use some fake certified, just see a bit.

Thanks for the warm welcome. G+ is no longer available.

welcome 😀

@Olav Folland Agreed on that. I was just looking for some options and stubled into this: http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.Overview
Could that be a startingpoint to add to d* (or maybe even all fedrated services)?

@Rob Bosch that's pretty cool. I didn't know there was OS stuff out there to play with. The basic command line app they provide even does auto language detection, which is pretty sexy.

Couldn't get an idea on the amount of horsepower required to do the actual translation, but assuming a manual translate button for a post/comment, the engine has to detect language (this might be doable with dictionary words) to determine what model to use, and then do a syntactical translation from detected language to target language. I could possibly do it for one or three people on my personal server, but even my small pod, I wouldn't want to try it on my cloud server.

The models are a bit trickier. Moses uses the same machine learning techniques Google and others use - to provide a good syntactical translation, you need to translate sentences, not words, so you have to feed the machine equivalent sentences in both the original language and the target language, and the more the better. This is d... show more

I'd be happy to "donate" surplus cpu cycles of my VPS (6 xeon E5 cores + 16GB RAM) to help with the learning part... it would be awesome if there could be a seti@home-like option to help training the translation engine...

@diaspora* HQ can you comment on this if this could be feasible for d*?

@Rob Bosch first, we would need thousands of person-hours worth of native language speakers to scan, OCR, and proof-read tens of thousands (or more!) pages of text for each target language to build a dataset
Then we need a host server/cluster to store tens of gigabytes of data per model)
Then we need a server/cluster (same one as before, probably) to distribute the tasks and combine the results
Then we gotta assume we have that cluster, and it can host translation services. * Diaspora* pods can host a couple thousand people on two cores and 8GB RAM. I seriously doubt a translation API on such a server could sever for more than like 20-50, including the stream performance hit, (And since most pods are hosted by individuals providing the service for free, asking them to radically upgrade their servers isn't particularly fair)
But, removing the hardware issues, and assuming a decent set of volunteers to do the data & software efforts, how long do you think it would take? Two years?... show more

There are a lot of things that are interesting, sustainable, good for distributed social networks, and some of them may even be even a good idea for diaspora*. Running our own translation service for the entire network is neither of those things.

#newtodiaspora ? Here's a #tip from a #newcomer: #start with some #tags and then you add more after a while #addtags . And, don't be #shy or #picky when it comes to starting to #share / #sharing with people by adding them to anyone of your #aspects . #people #here are often #funny or #creative , often by adding #ownart / #diy / #mywork , not least of which is #photo / #foto / #photography . One interesting tag seems to #gimpsunday . Yet a nother tip is #language. Even if #you #think language is a #barrier , in here it's most often not so. My #forgotten #german and #french is #returning now, #thankyou #diaspora #community !

#Sorry not sorry for #overtagging. I just wanna spread this as much as #possible. Part of why I #write it here as a #comment

@kalastaja@flokk.no may not work if your server doesn't "pull" those contents, and you'll end up nothing for the hashtags. Small servers need people to "follow' others to pull in the foreign (federated) content, and hashtags will only work afterwards.

It's a bit convoluted…

oooook. so now we know that. also.

and this is how we #learn #people

😁

And also hastags in comments are not searchable...

And also hastags in comments are not searchable…
... but they are clickable. 😀

So basically if you click on the ♥ you enroll for the public directory of active users. 😉

Gli admin di fakebook usano il tabnabbing e burpsuite per disattivare gli account delle persone, che ritengono usino la propria testa e di diversa opinione dalla loro.

It's been two months and I still get notifications for this post.

Well now, I send one back to all of you! Made you look!

@grey neener neener neener ;)

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