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Speaking of which, I've recently discovered #scuttlebutt and recognized that as a perfect opportunity to protect myself from Russian government acting all creepy recently. So I joined the #scuttleverse through #tor (not like it was necessary, just to make sure it works) and decided to set up a pub for me and my friends in case we experience network outages or privacy violation. Unfortunately, it didn't work, even though the program is distributed as a mere Docker container! Also, one of the clients fails with an error. That's a meh, but I'm doing my best to quit being a whiny bitch and properly reproduce the issues to send a report to the developers. Hope it works out.

Last year we've had somewhat like a talk about scuttlebutt in a LUG in Berlin. It was interesting - it differs a lot from the fediverse networks. For me the most interesting was the community Bild/Foto The network itself... I remember, that it's an append-only protocol Bild/Foto
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Yeah, it's very different and it feels so. Scuttlebutt is all about little local communities exchanging at a slow pace. Also, fully decentralized means more reliable. I doubt that my pals are going to like it though.

Scuttlebutt is neat! It's got public key identities, so it can do more creative routing than just federation. It's uh... kind of a resource hog though, and the default user interfaces are closed source. (Patchfoo is the open source one, IIRC) I wish they'd used something besides javascript though, and pull-streams are... really difficult to understand, and not very seekable, IIRC. Anyway, it's definitely got potential. Something like it implemented over #gnunet and using seekable lazy lists instead of pull-streams would be fantastic.

I keep meaning to go on scuttlebutt again. Maybe this time I won't get blocked by everyone for not being sufficiently happy.

Whoa. I thought they had everything open on git-ssb. JavaScript is JavaScript but at least it's not Go (looking at ipfs).

I don't mean to use it for global communication (after all, it's like a plan b for the case when Russia blocks outside net and coerces us to use lame local services) but I'm just curious, exactly what did you get blocked for? Do you think they were overreacting?

@Kirill Valyavin Patchwork and Patchbay both are clients written for "electron" which is a closed source web browser. I call it closed source since npm always downloads the binary, instead of compiling. That allows the electron devs make the compilation process absolutely awful, and nobody notices.

As for what I got blocked for, you seriously think they had the decency to tell me? All I know is the list of people who blocked me started growing like crazy at one point, even though I wasn't even posting anything controversial. I guess maybe people were warning each other about this unsuccessful male who is therefore dangerous to be around? To be fair, I have the executive functions of a retarded ferret, so what I think is a good idea to say could easily push me past the moral event horizon of thin-skinned people who've never known unhappiness or hopeless failure.

I had an impression that it's still much less weird than Mastodon. Also, I'm still trying to reflect upon their "just don't push to each other's master branch" policy.

Yeah, it's less weird than Mastodon. I could actually comprehend the code of ssb. It just is really hard to wrap my head around pull-streams. I can't figure out how to go 99 posts back in a stream, without parsing 99 posts every time. Without a way to seek to a post, I don't know how to create a filtered index without replicating the posts.

I don't know much about the Mastodon push policy.

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