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For those who are #newhere from other social networks, here’s a bit of handy vocabulary to help you navigate this new social network universe:

- Protocol - An agreed format that enables software applications to communicate with (or “federate” with) each other. The two most heavily used protocols around here are Diaspora and ActivityPub. As an end user, you don’t have to care about the protocol you are using and you don’t ever see the “protocol” other than it enables or limits which users you can see.

- Platform - The software application that implements a protocol(s) for federating. The Diaspora platform implements the eponymously named Diaspora protocol. Mastodon, for example, implements the ActivityPub protocol. Friendica implements both the Diaspora and the ActivityPub protocols.

- Pod - The server(s) running a particular platform (software application). Also known as an “instance”... show more

Indeed, very helpful for newcomers. Thank you for taking the time to put that clear.

@alysonsee (Fca) Lsome annotations:
ibranet is a friendica node, not a pod. Pod is a very specific description for diaspora installations. If you want to be more neutral, then you use the word "server". You shouldn't use such a platform dependent word as a common word. That is like you would say, every post in the fediverse and federation is a toot (Mastodon leetspeak).

And you should mention that until now Diaspora refuses to implement Activitypub. Therefore you are not able to act between Diaspora and Mastodon, Pleroma, Misskey, Pixelfed, Funkwhale, Peertube and many other ActivityPub networks.

Just that 'pod' is a word for diaspora servers. It is diaspora specific. At friendica, for example, we are talking about nodes and/or instances.

Es ist schrecklich, für Neueinsteiger [wie mich], das man sich nicht auf allgemein gültige Grundbegriffe, im Netzuniversum einigen kann!!!
Diese unterschiedlichen Begriffe erzeugen eine Zusätzliche und völlig unnötige Verwirrung. Und es erschwert den Einstieg, sicher nicht nur für mich. : (
Aber ich werde weiterhin üben, mein Friendicia Konto zu meistern. ;)
Beste Grüße : ))

Einfach nicht zu viel darüber nachdenken. 😀 Namen sind Schall und Rauch. Zum Glück kann man es einfach benutzen, ohne den ganzen nerd-igen Tech-Kram verstehen zu müssen.

Oh!,… wenn ich auch noch die technischen Dinge verstehen müsste, lieber Steffen, dann wäre ich schon sofort wieder gegangen. ;DDD
Aber es ist doch irgendwie eine Tatsache, dass es angebracht wäre, ein Begriffs BABEL zu vermeiden!!
Gerade auch in unserer Zeit, wo ALLES, in allen Bereichen, immer mehr in Richtung Barrierefreiheit strebt.
Für die meisten, wie mich, ist schon eine Konto Registrierung der erste Grund zum Scheitern.
Man hört zum Beispiel von dem dezentralen Netzwerk Friendicia und muss sich zum aber dafür einen sogenannten Server suchen…
Da geht doch schon das erste Problem los, welchen Server, was sind die Unterschiede, welche sind Server beständig und welche vielleicht Eintagsfliegen, wie vertrauenswürdig sind solche Server überhaupt und wo gibt es vertrauenswürdige Informationen, die weiterhelfen… Und so weiter und so weiter!!!
Ich hatte mich schon zur Jahreswende entschlossen, ein dezentrales Netzwerk, für alle, für mich interessanten Dinge, zu registrieren. Habe dann... show more

@Andi Droid wir haben da letztes Jahr mal eine Podcast Staffel über das Fediverse gemacht. Falls ihr da interesse habt, findet ihr alle Folgen zum Anhören hier https://besser.demkontinuum.de/

That is an excellent start and I'll use it even with its linguo limitations. Thank you @alysonsee (Fca) for being so engaged.
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btw we started to create a sheet with some feaures and supported protocols (you have to scroll to the right side). As soon i can manage it, I will try to create some nice charts and images, so you have a better overview, what is where, and who can do what ;)
https://ethercalc.org/goto805psnjh

I did notice some inconsistencies in the sheet. What do you classify as URL sharing?

@Shelenn Ayres I added the explanation in the annotations of the sheet

This is a great effort btw!

Since Friendica can embed (attach) URLs from the user perspective, I would suggest a change to the column name to Opengraph so that non-technical users are not confused by that column name. At first glance it appears one cannot embed URL content by how it is currently named.

On the streaming, how do you define that? I have successfully embedded audio streams within a Friendica post for example.

How do you define Cloud? I see the asterisk with no asterisk in a legend to refer to. There is am Amazon Machine Instance available for Friendica.

@Shelenn Ayres this sheet is not meant for endusers. This is just a collection. The result will be a reliable thingy (sheet, circles, something) for endusers) ;)
Cloudservices that the platform is having. Not on where it is installed ;) I dont do amazon feature spreadsheets ;)

@alysonsee (Fca) with the intent of taking into account the remarks made here and to provide any lambda newcomer (like me), I've given a brush to your first text. Interested in builts.
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Decentralised & Free Social Networks
For those who are #newhere from other social networks, here’s a bit of handy vocabulary to help you navigate this new social network universe:

- Protocol - An agreed format that enables software applications to communicate with (or “federate” with) each other. The two most heavily used protocols around here are Diaspora and ActivityPub. As an end user, you don’t have to care about the protocol you are using and you don’t ever see the “protocol” other than it enables or limits which users you can see. Nevertheless, be aware that currently not all the platforms (see this word later) are fully compatib... show more

Thanks for the updates, @Vladimir . I suggest changing this section accordingly:
For example, pluspora.com is one of the many pods running the Diaspora platform; mastodon.social is one of the many instances running the Mastodon platform; and libranet.de is one of the many instances running the Friendica platform.


Technically, a server and a node are the same thing and then you have an instance of the software running on it. But I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible for non-techies.

Also, it would be nice to get an updated version of the Venn diagram. I think, at this point, that every platform that implements OStatus also implements ActivityPub. And I haven't heard of any new projects on OStatus. That essentially eliminates OStatus as a distinguishing factor.

When one references federation-info everything is listed in terms of nodes which is technically correct. The nomenclature adopted by different projects only serves to confuse end users.

The nomenclature adopted by different projects only serves to confuse end users.

I agree. When I have tried to help new users understand why things work the way they do in the hopes of helping them with their early confusions and frustrations, I start to lose them with vocabulary differences that seem essentially meaningless.

i was referring to this https://the-federation.info/

Welcome to Diaspora!

@Vladimir Interestingly, pleroma does have some rudimentary OStatus support. It only supports looking up users though, not individual statuses, so can't be used to fave/boost/reply to a post on a different server. All you can do is follow the poster. That's really bad actually, because if you follow the poster, you still never get any of their old posts, so there's no way to ever reply to a post (or boost/fave a post) that isn't already on your instance.

@Vladimir that really is a handy chart! Does anyone know if Diaspora will ever be able to interact with mastodon?

@Patrick Marchiodi the Diaspora developers are not willing to implement ActivityPub. If Mastodon doesn't implement the diaspora protocol, what is not likely, there is no chance.

I do not know @Patrick Marchiodi but apparently, as @hoergen explain they should first implement Activitypub protocol.

Thanks for the answers ^^

Kolla in den här posten (och tråden) @jfrenil@diasporapod.no!